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Have you ever noticed how the media refers to Democrat-dominated states as Blue and Republican-dominated ones as Red?
My observation is that if you see a county-by-county breakdown of the country, only the major metropolitan areas are really all that blue in the first place. Rural areas in so-called Blue states are actually just as Red as any other state!
Feb 13 · 3 months ago
Likewise, the urban centers in "red" states are just as blue as LA.
One exception is where I'm from (Western MA). Very rural, goes hard for Bernie Sanders type candidates every time.
Now, tying into the housing discussion, why are urban people so unlikely to go where their neighbors are more independent minded and leave the city behind?
I always wanted to be an independent software developer and live in the country. Remote work looked promising but now the empolyers are stopping people from leaving with their office mandates.
So many issues involved in this but I didn't hate living in the outskirts of a college town for a while but I got sick of the HOAs and had to move away.
The US divide appears to be along the line of self reliance vs government or employer reliance. People in rural areas and self-employed in urban areas tend to vote red, people who work in regular employment tend to vote blue. Taking away wedge issues like abortion, people seem to vote for whichever approach is closer to how they currently survive in the world.
I see what you mean, istvan. Government is unreliable now and businesses that back government regulations are unjust as well. When it collapses under the weight of all the dependencies of the "nanny state", then what?
They're both edges of the same sword: out for your life and your coins.
@SamuraiCrow do you got that money for those "urban area" people to move ANYWHERE that's supposedly "like-minded"? Where does that exist if media and PEOPLE AROUND seem to only broadcast "mrreeeh they want me dead, Ill kill them myself, mreeeh!" What of that?
The gunslingers are within the constraints of the second amendment as long as they don't go on the offensive. Defending life and property are the purposes of the U.S. Constitution and any politician that disagrees is direlect.
I've lived in small places and biggest cities... Self-reliance is nice, but it sure is great to wake up, go downstairs and get a really good latte! And have a conversation with someone you don't know, who is not a total idiot.
Different mindset I guess. No interest in lattes or coffee shops or trying to find someone to talk to. I’d rather just put the steel percolator on the flame and cook breakfast while I wait. Two weeks of coffee for $5 vs $5 a day.
Breakdowns like that make me wonder... to what extent do certain problems need to be solved by federal policies? Couldn't a county-level set of solutions be more acceptible for everyone? Let 'blue' areas enact blue laws, and 'red' areas enact 'red' laws. Yeah, some things need a larger set of buy-in (like, say, national defense). But others could be handed a LOT more locally. What prevents us from doing it this way?
Fuck national defense. That same money could be used to eliminate world hunger, and provide free education and housing. instead it is lining the pockets of corrupt fucks who spend their days pretending to be important people.
these assholes will not solve any problems, ever. never had and never will.
Honestly? The petty tyrant in everyone’s head who desires power to compel other people to follow HIS laws and a pathological obsession with THEIR business.
It’s obvious on both sides, and no one wants to own it because everyone believes he is right.
It’s the same thing that makes people think, “You think differently than I do, and I’m morally justified to try and destroy your life for it.”
Education and Housing are corruptible too... There's just less money to be made there right now. We could discuss where "defending people from tyrants" goes in the scale of 'local or federal'. But why not let local communities determine their own way? Rural vs. Urban environments might have totally different approaches to, say, healthcare or public transportation. Who benefits when this just HAS to be solved with a federal mandate?
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