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List out your favorite Lisp dialect(s) and reason(s) why you like them, but also flaw(s) with them, if there are any.
2023-07-23 · 10 months ago
i am not an expert at all, but i was comparing lisp and scheme some time ago and scheme felt more polished and consistent.
Having spent over a decade as a Lisper, Common Lisp is _the way_!
I wanted to like Scheme, as a minimalist. However Common Lisp provides a comprehensive and standard set of tools (40 years without changes!) for practical programming.
Common Lisp is all about macros, much better than the Scheme ones.
There are many implementations, with 100% compatibility -- free and commercial
Common Lisp is fast - if you are careful, faster than C. The best implementation, SBCL, is double the speed of fastest Scheme compilers...
+1 for Common Lisp.
I do like the threading macros in Clojure, but you're dealing with the JVM..
Guile scheme, though I'm fairly new to schemes and lisps not really having tried many of them.
I've only used Emacs Lisp so far, so I can't really say anything bad about.
Having pumped Common Lisp, I have to say that I am fond of PicoLisp, and come back to it every few years to screw around, but have yet to do anything useful (or figure out how to use the built-in database).
Scheme for intro to "advanced CS" with SICP, Common Lisp with PAIP for hardcore and totally crazy stuff to implement in C/C++ and just weeks in CL. But Scheme has lots of fun too with Guile/Guix.
Commenting months after the fact, I realize.
Common Lisp is what does it for me. Yes, it's effectively Howl's Moving Castle - a little bit of everything, so as to become anything. But that makes it obscure, historically interesting, and above all... charming? And in the end, there is nothing I cannot do in it, all the while feeling like a real wizard.
Scheme (Guile, really) also occupies a special place because of Guix and GuixSD. However, I find CL far more natural and comfortable for most things. IMO Guile has moved past the minimal elegance of Scheme, only to fall short of the depth and power of CL. The middle ground is useful, but not always nice.
i started years ago trying to wrap my head around emacs, i couldnt understand how to know what is returned when... it was awful...eventually i checked out gigamonkeys practical common lisp, an excellent book giving an intro to CL. it was great! i loved it!
oopsie. forgot to hold shift. anyways. CL is love.
by that time i tried to get that nice explorative feeling in gamedev and checked out arcadia, a clojure interface for unity. also really nice back then. WAAY before unity corp started the shitfest.
eventually i realized i didnt like having to wait for a CL or clojure session to init/keep one open all the time... and i swerved to thinking about implementing my own lisp as an extension to something... like unreal with graalvm maybe...
anyhow, eventually i stumbled upon janet-lang.org and fell in love
one could argue janet is not a true lisp because of the various datastructures and other reasons but that feels nitpicky... ^^'
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